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Post by Secondanita on Dec 16, 2013 20:41:35 GMT
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rowan
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Post by rowan on Dec 19, 2013 19:46:17 GMT
No facebook account and can see your pics loud and clear. The boat looks great, can't wait to see it at the MTC.
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Post by Secondanita on Jan 29, 2014 15:52:43 GMT
There is a realistic chance that Secondanita will make it to the start line on August 16th.... maybe not completed as a gentleman's cruiser/racer but with enough there to show what we have. Target is not over ambitious for starters, just to show off my sexy italian lady, and hopefully how well she goes upwind when there's not too much wind. richard
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Post by Secondanita on Jun 12, 2014 20:28:25 GMT
New pics are now on same facebook link. Progress slow and painful* but she's coming on. * fell off a step ladder about 2 metres onto the tarmac drive today. Apparently nothing broken! I am trying to be there......
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Post by neris on Nov 14, 2014 20:24:40 GMT
After getting Don Giovanni measured properly early this year I had decided that 2015 will be the year for change. Especially with a weight of 860kg and overhangs that had never previously appeared on an irc cert plus a few blowy days with runners and checkstays my mind was made up to change.
The 1st part of the 1st step took place this week when a "new" mast for the boat was delivered from the uk. The rig has come off a modified 1/4 ton sister so a little chopping needs to be done and new chain plates put on the gunwhales. The current rig is inline spreaders with runners and the chain plates located inside the hull which at one stage this year nearly had disastrous consequences. Step 2 is still in the pipeline but could be the most challenging. Step 3 will be the last and be a well deserved hull fairing and new paint job. Hope to get a decent reduction on the rating aswell for 2015 and get down into the 860s at least
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Post by Secondanita on Dec 14, 2014 22:30:39 GMT
Everyone sailing a minitonner aged over 55 should spend the money they would maybe have spent on a swept spreader rig, new sails, IRC optimisation etc, on one of these. It weighs 105kg, replaces the 80kg or so of lead which I have removed round the mast base, and will be fitted about the same distance aft of the pitch centre as the lead was forward of the PC. Anyone telling me I will spoil the boat must think of this: most of our sailing will be 2-handed, so extra weight under the cockpit front is good, and when the wind dies at the end of a day's racing, who will be towing others home and serving ice-cool Pinot Grigio? Still much work ahead but we are getting there. Bonding to the kevlar/vinylester hull must be done carefully as My Little Yanmar is not vibration-free! (For anyone interested, the engine is going in back-to-front i.e. saildrive forward for best interior space and weight distribution, saildrive not yet altered to reflect this). Happy christmas to all around the globe Richard Attachments:
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Post by neris on Dec 15, 2014 19:07:58 GMT
It weighs 105kg, replaces the 80kg or so of lead which I have removed round the mast base, and will be fitted about the same distance aft of the pitch centre as the lead was forward of the PC Some fecker in italy left me short of 80kgs of lead. However more weight will be going on over the winter (i hope) in lead somewhere else. Engine probably wont do much to handling & performance of the boat. The Ceccarellis are built for light weather so the weight will be of benefit in anything above 12-15 knots
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Post by Secondanita on Dec 15, 2014 20:56:20 GMT
Hi Cillian, 3 points: 1. SA did well at a a relatively windy MTC in Hanko Norway in 1985 with only 3 on board as was normal then, 2. saildrive strut will produce extra drag but gives me a bit of handicap extra, 3. want to buy 80kg of lead very cheap from some fecker in england (including the 100mm tip of the keel which was cut off some years ago and bonded in near the mast)? keep smiling, Richard
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Post by neris on Dec 15, 2014 22:17:47 GMT
Ive already bought 465kg of mickey mouse shaped lead from England. For the size of boat the engine should be a big help in reducing handicap. With runners the handicap will be high so no harm in the engine. One thing ive found with the missing lead is the overhangs are crippling so if you can get more boat in the water even better
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Post by Secondanita on Dec 21, 2014 19:52:11 GMT
but.... the extra weight aft will give me a longer LWL so the handicap gain may be reduced (SA is very flat aft)? I have LOA 7.06, LWL(LBG) 5.8 on the old IOR/IRC certs, the engine will make LWL longer but how much? Old IOR cert has a figure for mm/kg-meter trim. but is that side-to-side or fore-aft? Can anyone enlighten me? I don't have a budget to engage mark mills or similar!
When I eventually make it to sail across from France with Funky Rivetto, the handicap is not relevant, first to cowes buys the beer. funky has now angled spreader rig. If there is no wind, I will win because I will be towing her....
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Post by neris on Dec 22, 2014 20:49:17 GMT
The weight aft may give you less bow in the water though. I ended up with a flying bow when i got rated this year. The great things about minis is they are so small you can easily rectify things and move ballast around if you need to. I would think your best bet to start is engine over the keel or as close to centre as possible. You dont need Mills for a mini
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Post by Secondanita on Mar 19, 2015 20:13:47 GMT
Hallo to all around the mini fleet. I have given up telling the world when I may join in the fun, having the boat in UK and home in germany makes everything take much longer than I hoped (I am also rebuilding a house dating back to 1882 in parallel). Latest status is that the engine mounting is fixed, and the next step is to make a hole in the hull to poke the end through. However much I thought about a conventional installation with stern tube and A/P-bracket, appeared advice from well-informed quarters that a saildrive is no heavier. 100kg moved about 1.5m aft changes the trim, but Cillian suggests that may be beneficial..... I am not hell-bent on a fully-IRC-optimised solution, rather a fun boat that can hold her own at least over the ground with others. At over 60 I am not going sailing without a reliable get-out-of-jail-free card, mine comes from Yanmar. For short-handed sailing the extra weight aft can only make things better. New photos on the link as before www.facebook.com/richard.salter.505/media_set?set=a.10150655244964061.414136.614714060&type=3 also available for non-facebookers. keep happy and let's all meet one day with out wonderful collection of boats from (mostly) young designers just starting out in their careers. Richard
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Post by Secondanita on Sept 28, 2015 20:47:04 GMT
Secondanita is heading for Germany tomorrow, boat at home means I can actually get down to gettingher into sailing trim. Mast stripped and painted, everything packed on board and rolling tomorrow afternoon. Please all look at the post from Chris Thomas at ISC about MTC format. We don't want the class to die. regards around the world Richard I10440 Secondanita
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Post by neris on Nov 9, 2015 15:54:01 GMT
Friend just bought a blackberry bush. Came with a free mini tonner
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Post by neris on Nov 14, 2015 15:40:00 GMT
Two irish minis finally put into the shed for some refits and modifications
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