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Post by stafford1977 on Dec 17, 2013 22:08:59 GMT
Hoping there might still be some Intro 22 owners around. I'm looking at an Intro and like other posters have found scant information on them online. Wondering if any owners out there could pass on any tips on particular problem areas... she looks pretty sound and well looked after. Sails seem very old and only the number 2 genoa has been converted to run on the roller reefing, so you are left stuck without the number 1. Might be able to budget for new sails though. I've heard they were a little prone to heading up / griping... would be good to know of any experiences. Also, any photos of other Intros in action would be great.
Hope someone out there might be able to assist. Thank you!
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Post by woozyuk on Dec 19, 2013 15:53:09 GMT
i love my intro. had it since April(ish) im no expert on them and yes there is scant information on them. they were what the Sonata was based on though. also David thomas and his family are of no help if you want any plans or anything to do with the boat. I had to contact other owners that i have found. For instance I ran aground in august and lost my rudder. trying to get plans was mute, except asking another owner for approx dimensions from his rudder. Dont suppose I could ask the same from you if I could have your rudder dimensions as I am going to have a go at making one as the one someone made me down the club isnt that good and is very very heavy to move. i think if you have an intro you need to be quite active as she heels a lot. i too am still using old sails. also my mast is shortened as the original owners many years ago reduced its height as it used to be sailed on a reservoir. ill dig up what i have found on the weekend to do with the intro and will post here. this is mine located at erith yacht club
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alanp
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Post by alanp on Dec 22, 2013 14:55:15 GMT
Having down-sized because of anno domimi, I've owned an Intro 22 for 5 years. Mine is plywood, built by Tony Farrow (now Farrow & Chambers) in the mid-70's and epoxy sheathed, both hull and deck in 2000. This and a non-standard interior mean she's a bit heavier than a production GRP boat. To be brief, I like the Intro. I race her most weeks in the season and, on her day, she's still competitive at club racing level. In the short seas we get on the East Coast in F5 against tide, it's a wet ride but she's a tough little boat and I've never felt like anything major is going to break. As for rounding-up to windward, yes she will if over-pressed so the mainsheet and kicker need to be played in the stronger gusts - but that's common to many a design. One thing she won't do is plane. There's a quite sharp 'kick' up to the transom in the underwater profile which prevents planing but she's relatively stable under spinnaker up to F6 - considerably more so than the UFO31 I owned in the early '90's. The only structural problem I've heard about is water leaking into the bulkheads holding the shroud chainplate fastenings and that is easy to spot. You would be a bit limited with only a No2 on a furler. I have a laminate No1 Genoa and usually go straight to the No3 if the boat still feels overpowered after flattening out the main and twisting off the top of the No1. Also, unless your No2 was made for the furler, you may find the luff gets too baggy as it's wound up. Being something of a Luddite, I still use hanked-on headsails. You could have a lot of fun for not much money with an Intro 22. I haven't mastered the art of putting photos on this forum but I can send you some if you send me a personal message with your email address.
For Woozyuk - from your photos it looks like your Intro has been converted to a masthead rig with in-line spreaders rather than the original fractional / aft swept spreader rig. Your mast foot seems further aft than mine as well. This could have moved the centre of effort of your sailplan further aft than designed. If this is so, it would increase weather helm and cause the heaviness in the rudder that you mention. Also, I saw that you had organised a new rudder so I didn't go ahead and take measurements from mine. My boat is out of the water now so I could measure for you if you wish.
Hope the above is of some help.
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Post by woozyuk on Dec 22, 2013 20:33:06 GMT
yes please alan a full measurement would be fantastic. the rudder that it came with wasnt as heavy as the one now. and was quite easy to steer even when over at 35 degrees, now its tough to steer all times
and yeah i wish the mast had been left alone. only found out about after i bought it. but it was shortened about 20-25 years ago
edit, could you take some pics of your mast and how its fixed please. appreciated
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Post by stafford1977 on Dec 23, 2013 11:23:42 GMT
Thank you both for your help. Alanp - I am also on the east coast, down at Mersea. Will let you know if I manage to get hold of the boat. The owner has the original brochure and other documents that might make interesting reading for you guys. Woozyuk - Will certainly provide rudder dimensions if I become the owner!
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Post by woozyuk on Dec 23, 2013 13:46:07 GMT
many thanks stafford1977
hope you end up the owner. they are fun boats and quite comfy inside
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Post by Butch on Apr 9, 2018 20:59:20 GMT
many thanks stafford1977 hope you end up the owner. they are fun boats and quite comfy inside [br I have an intro and race it at hardway sailing club there are Two of us
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